What happens if you die in matrix

Neo's words to Trinity after she died "I know that you can still hear me. JediHDM Here's an idea Would you be more or less calm if your friends body just disappeared after he died? Thus, the matrix is programmed so that the RSI don't disappear.

So people can have funerals. Michael Popper. He self-substantiated. Thus, his mind was put back into his body. However, his family had a funeral. If his mind is in his body, as it has to be for him to be alive, then what was left was not his mind, but rather, a shell, a body for his mind. Numo Your first paragraph was an idea I also had but then again I thought that if I were born into the matrix then if a body was to disappear on death then if the matrix was all I had ever known then I would accept that as normal.

Your second paragraph however I had not thought about at all, very good thinking. For this I would say that follow the sequence of events. Popper was dead and buried in the matrix before we see him in on the ship of the Neb.

I know that it may seem arrogant but I stil think that I'm right. JediHDM I'm not sure how the sequence of burial before Michael waking up either helps or hurts either of our theories Numo There is a difference between mind and brain. JediHDM Yes The mind is housed in the brain, and although the mind is more ethereal, your brain being alive or dead controls whether your mind is alive or dead.

If your brain is dead, then your mind is dead, it doesn't just 'think' it is dead. Numo There is fiction in your truth, and there is truth in your fiction. If the mind is ethereal then it cannot die. That is why some cultures believe in an afterlife or reincarnation.

And although we may agree on the existence of mind, where it is housed is open to speculation at best. JediHDM Now we're getting into the realm of a person's spirit Numo You see personally I believe that it is all the same thing but different people call it different things, mind, spirit, soul, that part of ourselves we believe to exist but is not physical as we know it.

JediHDM well, i have reasons why they are seperated but as that mutates this thread into the realm of religious discussion, i will not iterate them here. Numo Go on, you know you want to. Numo A difference between mind and spirit yes I think you are right, read Genesis Numo I've been meditating on this for some time and now I think that I have got it. The answer is in when the Logos flown by Trinity was flying to machine City and you see the fields where the babies are grown, glowing from the Source.

If you are hooked up to the matrix and die in it, you wake up in the real world. It is when you are flushed from your pod that you drown because your muscles have atrophied so you can't swim and your body eventually reaches the processing plant where the body is then liquified to feed the living. Except in Neo's case as with Karl Popper they were watching for his body and intercepted it in time.

In M1 morpheus explains that the matrix tells your mind and your mind tells your body that you have died Nononono What he says is that the body cannot live without the mind.

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Francis Ford Coppola - Gus Van Sant - Apocalypse Now. Back to the Future. People wear out Bodies are bodies; they decline after a certain age and eventually fail for some reason or another. People would notice, and be bothered by, the lack of death The architect describes the Paradise Matrix : [it] simulated a perfect world with no suffering to try to pacify their minds, but the human minds did not accept this version.

Men are weak. Improve this answer. The analogy to batteries doesn't fit that well, because a the machines do feed the humans with nutritients which of course doesn't make sense , so they act more like a fuel cell than a battery b biological systems are in principle able to self-repair almost indefinitely, only, most lifeforms don't do that because it's actually an evolutionary advantage if you die at some point. But I like the fuel cell analogy And I've seen estimates that fuel cells last 5kk hours before wearing out : — gowenfawr.

Luaan how would you lose an arm whilst strapped in a sheltering hive? Biological systems self-repair all the time on the micro-level — yes, in part by simply killing off and replacing damaged cells, about which the human doesn't notice anything.

As I said, whether or not a system actually does that depends on whether it's evolutionary advantageous. My point was that the wearing out of humans isn't at all analogous to the wearing out of batteries. It extends the batteries life, just as good nutrition and avoiding smoking prolongs the average human's life. But both of them degrade over time, despite self-repair, and so must be decommissioned and replaced. Actually the entire battery thing in the matrix is complete garbage.

We are as reliant on light as the machines would be--we don't create energy out of thin air, we consume energy placed into the food chain by plants. Non-plants cannot produce energy any more than the machines can, eventually you have to bring new energy into the system and that, for the most part, only comes from photosynthesis. Loved the movies but that's always bugged me, trying to analyze the battery thing much beyond the abstract levels in the movie is going to lead to disappointment.

Show 5 more comments. The first matrix did not allow that. First quote is from Smith, second from Architect. Plus, what's to stop there being a second layer to the Matrix: If you die in the Matrix-proper i. Everyone in the main Matrix thinks you're dead. You think you're dead. The machine still get their harvest. Add a comment. It's true the other way around, too The machines need to consume humans to live; this means disconnecting them from the Matrix and swallowing them whole as shown in one scene in the first movie I believe ; this means killing them both in the real world AND inside the Matrix.

NathanS 3, 4 4 gold badges 20 20 silver badges 53 53 bronze badges. Josh Part Josh Part 3 3 silver badges 3 3 bronze badges. I think you've misunderstood. The machines don't "eat" the human dead, they liquify them to make food for other humans. Valorum ewwww. They do not die This is a concept I've been thinking about regarding a sequel to the series. This only has one conclusion in my opinion, They never made it out of the matrix in the first place, They're still in the matrix, A matrix inside a matrix..

It is a quarantine for the matrix, therefore I don't believe they ever do die at all! Empire of E Empire of E 2 2 bronze badges. Even if we accept your hypothesis, I'm not sure how it answers the question, since it just changes it to why people are allowed to die in this second matrix instead.

It is not a hypothesis, it happens in the second film The matrix that you are referring to is just a matrix inside the matrix, therefore you can not say that the machine actually consumes them, they're just a digital representation Also, your Matrix-within-a-Matrix hypothesis is wrong, and Neo's ability to destroy the Sentinels in the Real World actually is explained by the Oracle. Even if your hypothesis was correct it wouldn't answer the question. How is it explained by the Oracle?

What did she say? GadgetGuru She says "The power of the One extends beyond this world". Since Neo was designed by the Machines to be a candidate to become the One, it is entirely possible that his Jack has some form of Wireless functionality, so that they could monitor the 'freed' humans, and provide guidance and insight to help him set up the new Zion in the next cycle.

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