Why is transgender included in lgbt
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Sure, everyone will know they are being a creep. When the public pools in the South were integrated, it led to the abandonment by local governments of public pools. Private country clubs opened up instead. Does that mean I believe the public pools should not have been integrated? Not at all. Instead there will be pay toilets. So the question becomes, does the entire public want to give up free public toilets so that a tiny sliver of that public does not feel discriminated against in their choice of bathroom?
I just poked around and found this concise but fascinating history of the downfall of pay toilets in America, which in had over 50, of them, but by , almost none. Chicago Mayor Richard J. Many other cities and states quickly followed suit. But pay toilets have started to creep back. In , for example, New York City installed its first 20 permanent, self-cleaning pay toilets. If you know of other notable examples, drop me an email. I am confused by some of the ideological positions of gender progressives, and would appreciate if some of your readers can clarify an apparent contradiction.
This makes some intuitive sense: Men should be able to enjoy ballet and poetry and child-rearing without being cast as effeminate and unmanly, just as women who eschew oppressive standards of feminine beauty and sexuality are still women. A man or a woman is simply one who possesses male or female chromosomes and except in rare cases the corresponding sex organs. But the transgender movement seems to disagree.
It argues that a person who conforms outwardly to socially conditioned, feminine gender roles is actually and truly a woman , irrespective of sex, while a person who adopts stereotypical male behaviours and dress is actually and truly a man. How regressive! Moreover, in arguing that a biological man can have a female brain or vice versa, the transgender movement seems to be saying that gender is not a social construct, but is instead rooted in biology—but, apparently, not the biology dictated by chromosomes.
How to reconcile these contradictions? Is gender a mere social construct, or is it biological? And if gender is a meaningless social construct, while sex is a set of immutable biological characteristics, then why is there a push in progressive circles to eliminate sex-based protections in favour of gender-based ones? Thank you for the thoughtful reply and the opportunity to participate, Chris! I am a longtime fan of The Dish and Andrew Sullivan and very glad to see your tradition of high-quality conversation continue at The Atlantic.
And thanks also for thinking of me with that comment. I will offer a few thoughts. My view, based on my life experience and a lot of reading, is that neither pure social constructionism nor biological determinism are adequate to explain the phenomenon of gender. I encourage people to research for themselves the science on gender difference and trans people. The transgender movement adamantly does not contend that a person is a man or a woman based on a stereotypical outward presentation.
What we argue is that people have the right to express their gender in the way that feels right. And for the record, many, many trans people do not conform to gender stereotypes of any kind, before or after transition. On the question of minors, the approach advocated by most experts is that parents be accepting not trying to force the child to conform and simply watch and wait to see what the child figures out.
Medically, the most recommended for youngsters is hormone blockers that delay the onset of puberty while the child has time to develop a bit more and figure things out. If the child turns out not to be trans, they cease the hormone blockers and go through puberty as usual, no harm done. In addition to pausing puberty to give an adolescent time to figure out if he or she is really a she or he, hormone blockers prevent intrusive and expensive things down the line.
From that American Prospect piece I linked to earlier:. For adolescents who continue their transition, hormone blockers also help to prevent later surgeries; a boy like Alex who never grows breasts in the first place need not have them removed.
By around age 16, Alex could start on cross-sex hormones, which would deepen his voice, cause hair to grow on his face and his chest, and prompt the other hormonal changes of a typical teenage boy. Genital surgery—a much less common choice in transgender men since the surgical techniques are less advanced than they are for transgender women—can happen as early as age That question is broached by the second reader below, along with a few other considerations of safe spaces for people such as conservative Muslim women in swimming clubs and locker rooms.
But first, a short note from a Christian pastor who is sympathetic to the plight of trans people:. What I find unreasonable is how quickly the left expects people on the right to shift their personal beliefs. As soon as the left takes up an issue, we demand everyone else to join us, with little time to spare.
We are outraged even at the slightest hesitation. Openness and tolerance must run in every direction. From the reader with concerns over the need for psychologically safe places for certain cisgender women:. Thank you for convening this discussion; it seems like a valuable way to try to build some empathy and understanding on both sides of a very difficult subject.
Following are some thoughts from a more or less conservative perspective. On a recent vacation, I was at a swimming pool with my daughter. It seems likely he was there in error, since the pool was about to close, and there were no other patrons whose presence might have tipped him off. It is somewhat less likely that he identified as a woman.
Either way, I promptly turned around and left, as I was not about to undress in the presence of a biological male. This is not because I fear being physically or sexually assault per se, nor is it motivated by any personal animus or hostility.
I simply do not wish to subject myself or my daughter to the male gaze while in a state of undress. My values might be considered archaic or puritanical by some, but I hardly think I am alone. For all sorts of reasons, many women are profoundly uncomfortable undressing in front of biological males, irrespective of how they may identify.
Sexual assault survivors have good reason to prefer sex-segregated spaces, as do conservative Christian, Jewish, Buddhist or Muslim women, and others who place value on sexual modesty. If, as a result of legislation striking down the legality of sex-segregated space, all these women are denied the right to privacy, this will lead to a number of unintended consequences.
For instance, my city has a large number of immigrants from South Asia and the Middle East, and the local swimming club accommodates them by offering women-only swim teams. Even fathers of the girls are not permitted to observe their practices, out of respect.
Requiring that biological males who identify as female be allowed to participate would not only disadvantage biological women in athletic competition another issue entirely , it may actually erode female participation in the sport, since girls would no longer be assured that their privacy and cultural values will be respected.
What if those men have a history of sexual violence? Would said shelters have any legal standing to turn them away? This is not a mere hypothetical. Of course, trans individuals also have a right to safety and privacy. It seems the most practical solution would be to offer a single-use, gender-neutral space—something many facilities already provide.
By the same token, mandating that trans people can only use the restrooms corresponding with their biological sex also has some pitfalls. One wonders if legislators should simply leave this one alone.
Are there sensible ways to mitigate the concerns of that mother and others like her? I also broached the differences between bathrooms and locker rooms when it comes to personal privacy. Meanwhile, a few readers scratched their heads over Caitlyn Jenner talking about her female soul, followed by a trans reader standing up for Jenner and her Republican views not fitting into a tidy political box. Most recently, two readers one a transgender woman proposed that everyone—trans or cis— should have access to private bathrooms , or at least private stalls.
I doubt the transgender lobby seeks debate; it wants the nation to toe a party line on all aspects of transgender, including their claims of fact. The bathrooms and the religious legislators in North Carolina are mostly a red herring as well. Our real issues will revolve around the teaching of gender ideology to young children, diagnosis of gender dysphoria in children, and initiation of hormone therapies and sex-reassignment surgery at the earliest possible age, which health insurers and Medicaid will be required to cover.
Bathrooms will enter only insofar as schoolgirls at gym class may be disturbed at the sight of a swinging penis in their locker room. If an adult decides to pursue this lifestyle and it is ultimately a choice , I have no problem with that. With the exception of bullies who lay hands on transgender persons, or rare instances of employment and housing discrimination, none of the issues this lobby raises are matters of human rights.
Rather, I think children should be insulated from these adult issues until they come of age. In my opinion, transgender in the USA is a cultural construct, with the hormones and surgeries its rite of passage. How does a young child know for sure that he or she is the opposite gender? Kenneth Zucker disagrees. Pushback against that Wyoming reader also very welcome.
Update with some pushback from a reader, Emmanuel, below. Zucker are overzealous when it comes to children. Children are often still developing their understanding of gender, so we should be careful not to push irreversible surgeries and hormone treatments on a little girl who really only wanted to try out toys and clothes in the boy aisle. For the two or three people I know who work as LGBTQ advocates, these issues are much more pressing than bathroom use.
Trans people face a truly appalling level of violence and discrimination in the USA and around the world, and I speak from personal experience. In that study, 41 percent of participants had attempted suicide compared to 1. It goes on and on and on.
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